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One of my friends who is an anti and a comshipper in denial (human x non-human, dubcon/noncon, angst enjoyer) told me recently that liking non-con and abuse in fiction is okay but enjoying kodocon and incest in the same fiction is not
And I was wondering... Why are these two things (which are BOTH morally wrong irl and are BOTH illegal or harmful irl, which BOTH can be triggering to someone and BOTH can be pretty much enjoyable to someone in fiction) treated differently? Why are those aspects of dark fiction treated so... Well... Twofold?
Abuse, guro, eroguro, murders (and any brutal crimes in general), kodocon, pedo/zoo/necrophilia, non/dubcon, severe mental illnesses etc description falls under darkfic definition, as far as I can tell, and antis tend to enjoy some parts of it (the greatest example of it is YanSim, Danganronpa and some psychological horrors enjoyers) with no shame, but at the same time they shame comship/kodocon/noncon enjoyers for the same thing. Isn't that weird?
My theory is, they treat these things differently because these things mostly present romantic or sexual stuff and so are pretty easy to be romanticized and sexualized. But:
Not every dark romantic or sexual fiction is meant to be seen as romantic/sexual in general and is meant to be romanticized or sexualized. From my experience, I would say it works vice versa. Romantic or sexual fiction can be used as a vent, as a representation of sexual traumatic experience, as an intentionally disturbing and triggering media (for horrors and thrillers), as an appeal to reflection of the essence of romantic/sexual relationships and behaviors between humans etc
Everything, in fact, can be romanticized or sexualized, no matter of its content. People romantize and sexualize mental illnesses, neurodiversions, murders, self-harm, suicide, cannibalism etc — everything that is NOT sexual or romantic in the first place. That's why, for example, different fetishes and eroguro exist
Romanticizing and sexualizing something in fiction and in real life is really different. Yes, in some cases fiction CAN affect reality and vice versa (for example how drawn porn can make you have certain fetishes, even though the porn you consumed were not, in fact, real), but it's NOT as common as antis and pro-cencorship people think. The only reasons (from what I know) people think fiction reflects real life unspoken rules are that they are either not mature enough to separate fiction from reality or their perception of reality is way too disrupted. So, if you're not a teenager/adult or if you know fiction can affect the way you treat real people, do not consume the fiction that you think can alter your brain into thinking dark fiction presents what's right and what's wrong, what you can do and can't do. And if you're a parent, please, watch your children and control the stuff they consume till they're mature enough. That's it
Also I would like to mention that it's OKAY to dislike, hate or despise dark fiction, or even people that consume this kind of stuff, as long as you don't assault, insult, or try to make real human beings feel bad about themselves in any way
This screenshot is not mine I just find it funny
I need to see their ingame interaction please 💔
I can't stand the way antis and antiship-allied people purposely misuse such terms to make themselves sound smarter and "righter", their selfish will to outsmart proshippers with no proper knowledge always leads to an actually harmful misinfo. They use big and serious words wrong to cause strong emotions among those who see their content and to find allies this way, because if they didn't misinterpretate terms to their liking and to their advantage, very little to no people would actually believe in anti rhetoric. Antis misuse terms because their argumentation cannot exist without it, and all their beliefs are built on it from the very core
Antis will purposely call explicit underage fics "*fictional* CSAM/CSEM/CP" to make people believe those ficwriters and enjoyers are actual pedophiles and predators to justify their bullying and harassment
Antis will purposely call any problematic ship dynamic "illegal" to make people believe this stuff is morally wrong to the point you actually can get jailed for it, like for fraud or murder, to make their rhetoric sound morally superior
Antis will purposely call any open proshipper "a sick pedo" and send them rape, assault, doxx and death threats to suppress those who don't agree with their ideas or who condemn their behavior and to turn proshippers into outcasts with no right to speak about shipcourse
And this is NEVER okay
If you are in any online spaces that discuss the morality of fiction or its censorship, please keep the following in mind:
CSAM refers to Child Sexual Abuse Material. This is a term that was created for use by US federal law enforcement. As such, it is important to remember that this is a term used specifically to describe illegal sexual content that is produced involving real children. the term CSAM was specifically constructed to highlight the trauma these victims experience because of this abuse, and therefore their humanity.
if you come across CSAM online, you should immediately report it to a tip line. Some websites that host their servers in the US are subject to US federal law even if the person who posted it does not currently reside in the US, so keep that in mind when reporting. again, this is involving CSAM - it is illegal sexual content involving real children.
CSEM refers to Child Sexual Exploitation Material. This is material that involves a real child in a sexualized situation, but either 1- the material itself is not illegal to possess, or 2- the material is not sexualized, but is included in a series or other content that does contain CSAM. Think along the lines or a parent with a few too many photos of their child in the bath. These images are not explicitly sexual, and are not illegal in and of themselves, but they can be used exploitatively.
If you come across CSEM online, it's still a good idea to send in a tip as well as alerting the website it was posted on. Even if the content itself isn't technically illegal, some websites do have strict rules regarding nudity and the sexualization of minors, which can help stop the spread of such materials and reduce the impact on the affected child.
CSAM and CSEM are words used to describe the assault, abuse, sexualization, and exploitation of real children. CSAM, specifically, is used as a way to identify and remove these materials.
CSAM and CSEM do not apply to fiction. They don't apply to any fictionalized or simulated child abuse or sexualized children. They only refer to real children.
Do not send in tips about fictionalized child abuse or sexualized children to tip lines meant to be used for CSAM.
Do not use the words CSAM and CSEM when discussing fictionalized child abuse or sexualized children. In a worst case scenario, it leads to people misusing tip lines due to a conflation of CSAM with fictionalized depictions.
In a more likely scenario, using CSAM to refer to fiction minimizes what CSAM was created to do - which was highlight the trauma experienced by survivors, and therefore draw attention to their humanity. By continuing to use these terms in situations that do not involve real people, it reduces that impact.
🩷 OPTION 1: people can openly ship whoever they want to and write RPF about anyone, no matter of shipped ones age, relativeness, relationships or consent
🩷 OPTION 2: people can openly ship whoever they want to and write RPF about anyone with no consent asked, as long as shipped ones are not underaged, relatives or in abusive relationships
🩷 OPTION 3: people can ship whoever they want to and write RPF about anyone, no matter of shipped ones age, relativeness, relationships or consent, as long as this ship has little to no publicity and content is only posted privately
🩷 OPTION 4: people can ship and write RPF only with those who have consented to being shipped before
🩷 OPTION 5: people shouldn't ship real people and write RPF
I personally have really mixed thoughts about this so... Yeah I wanted to ask what do you think
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Them!