Oh I'm Familiar With Naruto, Is Just I Didn't Watch The Full Series. Never Get Into Naruto Shippuden

2020.7.26

heroes : rising

Shigaraki is way too boring and passive to have any believable rivalry with anyone in canon. Most of his interactions with anyone end up being flat and predictable because no matter what the other character has to say, we know Shigaraki will only focus on his "haha destruction" bs and the narrative will favor him over such character which is usually more interesting.

Nine and Overhaul on the other hand are proactive villains with real goals and methods to archive such goals.

They would be perfect rivals because they're so different yet similar at the same time.

I like your comparison with L and Kira because that's exactly the kind of rivalry with chemistry you could get if got these characters sharing same space. The moments could write themselves I swear.

P.S: There's some fanworks of Nine saving Eri and rising her.

Idk how feel about Nine beint a paternal figure, but he can't escape from his heroic heart as much he wants.

If nine and his gang were the ones who met Overhaul, how different would've things happened? Would they have created a successful partnership? Would nine care about eri when he discovers she's the centerpiece, especially since she has a quirk as crazy as his?

Now you're asking the real questions here.

But think about this: how good a meeting between a group who believes in quirk supremacy with another group who want to erase quirks from the world can possibly go?

Obviously if Nine and Chisaki meet each other and they both found about their real ideals and motivations it can make A.M and AFO look like best friends in comparison.

Yet at the same time I can help but think Overhaul and Nine would be the perfect rivals.

Not just because of their ideologies and the contrast in the way they treat their followers, but their personalities could make for interesting non hostile interactions between them.

I can see for example Nine actually being interested on learn shogi and play the game with Chisaki, both of them exchanging ideas and despite obviously hate each other they would enjoy try to surpass each other. A sort of enemies chemistry and that I love being used as a trope between bad guys.

Kai may also found nice the way Nine dresses up with good looking suits and keeps a mask almost all the time, ironically he might feel somewhat comfortable around Nine because of his manners which would add a fun twist to their rivalry.

And Nine will probably interested to learn to learn why Kai have such a complex with quirks and why he having a such godlike ability like Overhaul can't appreciate the "blessing" of born with that perfect quirk, at least on his eyes.

There's millions of possibilities with these two characters so different to each other interacting.

As for what Nine would think about Eri if he meets her? I guess he probably will try to free her from Chisaki and raise her into his own beliefs, since Nine would see Eri as a divine being who shouldn't be controled by anyone.

At least Nine would be more nice to Eri, but that's a very low bar lol.

Could she have both of them? If you're into poly relationships like I do...

Cider is just coded to be a bit goofy yet lovely dork who makes Izu fell in love because of how natural he acts all the time. He should probably only be himself rather than try hard on impress her like others will do in the same situation.

While is fair for her to get revenge on Bakugou, let Cider being the real men who protects Izu and helps to give BK a good lesson. After all Izu needs to be really protected by someone who loves her for once.

You can't imagine how much I love the Cider House leader guy...

A minor villain has no right to look so cool, badass and handsome like he does.

Also he probably got the best water quirk of the series.

Also he got so much sassy energy on top of having such insane drip.

Being one of his like 3 fans isn't easy, but still love him.

I still find interesting how Nine not only looks like he got physical traits from both AFO and Yoichi, but his eyes especially look like a mix of both.

The grey/silver iris color of All For One, but with white pupils like Yoichi and that thick black circle around the iris.

All them have beautiful eyes, but Nine's are especially beautiful and haunting.

Perhaps the best eyes in all MHA.

Also you can't say Nine isn't somehow related to the Shigaraki bros... this can't be just a coincidence.

Random take but: Stain had the coolest and most insane boots design on his debut.

Like we should normalize black leather boots with a lot of metal and with small chains for laces, that looks cool as hell.

As a marketing strategy I get why Aldera would do all the moves to get Bakugou at U.A, since one can imagine for them having as future reference "Pro Hero Bakugou Katsuki graduated from our prestigious school". Is more of a greedy spin rather than just them having a racist (quirkist?) agenda, which I find more believable.

Good for Izu to get justice. They should also close the school and use the building to open a center that helps the victims of bullying and other more real social issues.

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Oh you're adding the creep factor into the mix?

Hear me out: what about Aizawa being in this too?

Because you know, his preferential trait for Shinso over other students could easily be twisted into something really sick if you want. As you probably know Shinzawa is a really popular ship for both characters.

What if Aizawa was having sexual encounters with Shinso? But of course that totally didn't have anything to do with the mysterious "ascension" of Shinso into the hero course (and expulsion of some random folk for allow that place being free) despite his notorious low performance and he already being put in general studies.

I imagine Izu using his resources of hacking and contacts (would be fun if she hires Mineta to spy on Aizawa using his talents) to get her a lot of tapes that incriminate Aizawa as a pedo. Since yes, Shota obviously would be dumb enough to record himself having sex with Shinso.

Hell you can even add Bakugou into that creep act, as BakuZawa is also very popular. Imagine this fun yet twisted scenario were Shinso turns against Aizawa because he thought he was the only "special boy" of Shota.

Yet I imagine Shota wouldn't be charged for the worst part of this. For his ex students becoming villains he will face justice and Nezu probably would try to use his influence to get him free of charges, but in private Izu threats Aizawa to expose his sexual tapes to the press if he doesn't declare himself responsible and also reveals a lot of shit that happens in U.A under that fachade of perfection.

Aizawa totally defeated accepts and he goes a time to jail, but pretty tame compared to what he actually deserves. Obviously his heroic and teacher career are ruined for life anyway, and Nezu would use his influence for ensure Shota never goes behind a desk again just as a revenge for expuse the true face of the U.A

You decide if that's enough punishment for him.

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I wouldn't discard Mirio getting totally brainwashed into what Nighteye expects from him, so his weirdo acts don't bother him at all and he probably would defend his master.

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Cider quirks having the unintended side effect of getting everyone with a wet shirt is a happy mistake lol.

I guess at first their atraction would be purely physical, that's normal, but when they start to meet each other they discovered all the things they actually like from the other.

On the seltzer bunny 🐰 fic I finally have an outline for the first chapter. And yes, Cinder does make an appearance. Ok my idea is basically Izumi makes Aldera her first target.

It doesn't make a big target if you see with western eyes but in Japan, teachers are respected so...Izumi showing how aldera is corrupt is a big deal, many eyes are on her and aldera.

Izumi's crimes:

Breaking in

Invasion of propriety

Identity thief

Hacking

But she exposes Aldera as it is. She ruins their lives as they ruined hers and the others. No Redestro is used nor they are anti QUIRKLESS...here they are willing to sacrifice everyone for BK (and BK is ranking bellow Mineta) and didn't spare a second (hm, this au is set UA is a colleague and they DO use the image of the students to create polls and whatnot.

You read that right ...Bk ranks bellow Mineta.

The first thing in this chapter is how Izumi is walking among the rain. She is wet and I do like this small nudge to the talks we had about what would tease Cinder...Izumi will say the phrase "I'm wet" a lot.

As for Cinder...he hears about the Usagi(means bunny) and is curious...he is not sure if she is real or if the Aldera's staff is making things up. Their crimes do make others educators frown at them...their careers are over and so is Aldera. A new school will born.

Cinder is not a fan of corrupt schools and finds aldera really stupid but if this bunny is real...that's interesting.

Cinder: if we are to meet, we will.

(I love put those lil moments here and there. Hints to the couple. Again, she says "I'm wet a lot" and is not an innuendo until it is)

Izumi is planning her next move. Nighteye. Everyone is motivated by revenge in the team. I label them "team found family revenge" lol

Congrats for the progress with your story! I want to read it as soon you publish the chapters, so let me know when that happens.

I'm aware of how Japan culturally holds a lot more respect and give importance to education than the west. Ngl I kinda admire them for that, for story porpuse I get what you try to make.

And since you're ruining the lifes of bad teachers do you have some plans for Aizawa next? I think you didn't like him that much either.

Lol isn't weird at all that Mineta should classify better than BK, as after all besides the stalker stuff and such Mineta is capable of having human decency and interact with other people normally. He also smarter according to canon and his worst tendencies became pretty tame later on.

The "I'm wet" is going to take a new meaning later lol. But I'm here for the slowburn so this sounds interesting.

So you dislike Nighteye? Yeah he's not a very likeable character tbh.

one could almost believe that yoichi birthed nine himself (afo fathered him)

I do believe it, hard to not when Nine looks like they got mixed into one person.

Most perfect genetics ever!

This is the real Dad For One theory right there.

I didn't follow Pokemon in like 10 years, but is funny how always I see a MHA/Pokemon mashup Midoriya always have an Eevee, and I got the vibe people are going for with this pair.

On a related note, for MHA canon verse I wish the concept of animal manefesting quirks was more explored, because outside of Nezu who is functionally the same as a mutant, animals with quirks are a dope concept. Basically pokemons for that world!

Cider being Cider in every universe is a reason why I love him.

Any other character you like for this crossover? Since you know better than me about pokemon as franchise.

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Like everything else, good writing goes first but aside of that MHA for some reason works perfectly as a crossover sandbox. Heck I've never seen a franchise being used for so many crossovers like MHA.

Every franchise, character or concept you can imagine can fit in MHA like a glove. Maybe because the premise of "everything is a superpower and everyone has one" is so easy to adapt into other things.

Personally my fav crossover is MHA x KNY.

Any crossover between MHA and other franchise you like?

Hi @nyc3 funny you ask me this bc I was thinking about an au where Izumi is in a pokemon world. Srsly!

Izumi is a poke trainer, she has eevees and eeveelutions (I think it fits here. One Eevee can be anything just like Izumi)

And well Cinder menages to steal a gym becaming a gym leader (people like him better lol) and well, things happen.

On a broad side, I don't have much crossovers for mha. They work fine as they are...they just need a good writing.

Add me on discord as "alka07783".

I don't use discord that much these days because the app changed for worse since the first time I've used it, and just lack of interest compared to my other social media.

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I'm sorry to hear that about your beta reader. That's a really awful behavior, but I'm sure you will get a new one soon.

Still excited to read your take on this ship and the AU you made for it.

OK FINALLY I FINISHED

Chapter 1 of the most heroic villain is done, holy shit I did this in two days. (laughs awkwardly at the grammar, thank god I have a beta) OK, I LOVE THE LITTLE HINTS OF THIS SHIP (ok just saw my beta block me on Discord and on Tumblr, it's bc I ship sgdk I bet but wow so I have no beta anymore...ok,)

A bit sad but oh well, life goes on. Do you want to see Chapter 1?

I do like how both Cinder and Izumi have anonymity at their disposal, yes people know Cinder exists but they do not know what he looks like or have any info- can´t help to contrast with POSSUM that blows the element of surprise for...nothing.

Izumi is very nonchalant about hearing how Usagi is a hot topic.

I kind of like that, she doesn't give a damn for fame.

Oh great!

Congratulations for your first chapter. I would love to read it.

Also it's fun because you technically made the first story ever of this ship.

Btw I also have discord in case you want chat there.

The last thing.

Basically a get out of jail free card.

Hi, I saw some rewriting idea about Nine saving Shig and yeah it's cool. I also not a fan of the whole "Izu wants to save Baby Tenko" HE NEVER EVEN MEET TENKO OR SAW HIM AS A BABY.

So I want the whole Izu saves Shig still but their relationship would have to be work...and comes an idea.

What if Shig wanted Izu to join his side? He saw how Izu is mistreated by everyone and he wants to save Izu. For once, Shig wants to reach for someone.

Nine is in this equation and we can say ...he wants shig to not be used by afo.

How about that?

An au where Shig wants to make Izu join his side. Shig is making an effort for one hero and later said hero retribute the action.

That could shake Nine's beliefs...or not?

I actually want character development for Nine in the sense he realizes most of his beliefs are not entirely what he actually wants, but more the way being born in extreme conditions molded him to think only the power and strenght matter in a cruel world where people aren't treated equally.

After all, like I said in other of my post I think Nine internally has an unconscious desire to protect the weaks using the strength he possess. And his supposed distaste for weak people is more like a defense mechanism created due experience a hard life marked by the way society puts him down despite his rightfully called divine powers.

Because when you think about it, how did he even knew his friends are all that powerful before know them? He just saw them in such low life conditions and was like "I need to save them".

In my rewrite version of the story Nine does indeed have the heart of a hero, but due his life experiences he knows more drastic actions need to be made in order to improve something. He would be like a middle point between Deku who is pro status quo without realize, and Shigaraki who also shares a similar view but don't view ahead of destroy.

Speaking of which I guess the dynamic of Shigaraki trying to be a hero on his own way for Deku would result of him being scared at first. Because let's admit it, even if Shigaraki has good intentions for Midoriya I think his methods would be far to extreme to Deku accepting his offer, at least at first.

And that's where Nine would act a as a middle point between them.

I talked a lot of why I think Deku and Nine are perfect foils for each other, but his rivalry could find a neutral spot when both of them try to save Shigaraki from the influence of AFO.

Except in this case Nine would be the one to call out Deku for having a very surface level desire of save Shigaraki, a person Midoriya never knew or understand. Deku just want to be a hero because he had a preconceived idea of what is good for criminals, but never look the big picture or care about what happen to them after being arrested (like he does in canon duh).

Nine desire to save Shigaraki in this version of the story (following my previous post) would came from the fact he found Tenko as a child after the Shimura house incident, and they grow to together since they were childs, practically rising him as his little brother. So he knew Tenko better than any other person and also knows how bad AFO influence can be.

Oh I forgot to mention but in this version we skip the body snatching plot point for Shigaraki, as I have other ideas in mind for what AFO would do in this version on the part of getting a perfect vessel.