If You Were To Turn 9 And His Squad Into Main Series Villains, How Would You Do So?

One thing less

Now I just need Nine real name

Fav ship category: Battle Couple composed by a younger hot headed, passionate and energic top, with their cold more mature but protective older bottom.

-Izuku x Giulio

These two are such a fun duo.

The contrast between their styles and personalities makes for an instant fav ship, and it's fun how they progress in the movie together

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-Bakugou x Edgeshot

Need to explain this one? Shinya literally is the reason Katsuki isn't in the afterlife lol, he metaphorically and literally became Bakugo's heart, how you can go better than that?

The savior dynamic is perfect, just like the such different aesthetic and personalities that compliment each other perfectly. You can't imagine how happy makes me know they're so close in the epilogue after all those years (Katsuki doesn't need Deku is he has Shinya)

They are like the Ereri of MHA in terms of style.

Speaking of which...

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Eren x Levi

The whole reason for me to watch SNK in the first place. Wish I lived during the peak of the ship though.

All time classic for good reason.

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Shoto x Hawks

You can't tell me Shoto didn't have a small crush on Keigo.

This is the only valid and real ship for Keigo with one of the Todorokis kids.

It's a shame Horikoshi didn't make Shoto to have his intership with Hawks and instead go with Tokoyami. What a waste...

Oh also I guess this ship is different than the others because Shoto is the cold one while Hawks is the energic goofer.

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Denji x Aki

Doomed yaoi everyone.

I'm 100% on the idea of Denji being the top in the relationship, sorry to the Aki top stans (even if I do think Aki is a power bottom).

CSM isn't the same without these two going along.

No, only Nine dies in the movie because you know... crusty bitch killed him in a very cowardly move.

His team likely will never know what happened to him and that's both sad an frustrating to know because they loved Nine as a family.

I will not reveal what ship is valid for Nine yet.

Looking at the characters pages in the Volume Rising extras, I notice an interesting detail about Slice's background.

Now I'm aware this is a rough translation by google, but it's interesting that Horikoshi explicitly describes Slice as being used by "men".

Which could also connect with this panel from Nine's origin backstory, in which Slice is seen lying on the floor of a destroyed apartment looking totally defeated and helpless.

As far I know this is the only time a female character (and a villain for that mattter) in the series is written with an explicit background about being used and possible exploited by mens, implying a context of misoginia.

Which also makes me wish we had more context about Slice relationship with Nine and the rest of the crew.

How she pass from not trust anyone to be fully concerned about her team? (All being mens).

There's a lot of potential to developed their relationship there.

But an important note: I don't see Slice devotion to Nine and his ideals as romantic, not at all like much people like to interpret just because she's a woman. I feel that kinda goes against her characterization, considering Nine probably was the first man she ever trust but unlike others he wasn’t a lover or anything, but a savior and a true friend/family.

Horikoshi also says on Slice character page that Nine asked her about her quirk first and he values the name of it over actual names (which btw adds to Nine's own characterization considering he doesn't have a real name). I like to think it might be one of the reasons of why Slice trust so much on Nine's vision for the world, as he probably give a new meaning to her life other than being a pretty face and help her to value her own power.

Oh Garaki really was laughing his ass off (on the inside) in the scene when he prepares the procedure and Shigaraki is giving another of his discourses of destroying everything blah blah blah. This one scene:

Not surprising considering he also internally mocks Nine despite says something completely different. He obviously doesn't care about what reasons they have to accept the surgery.

After all in the end both mens are just fresh meat for Garaki.

hello I recently and after going through it I would like to ask some questions if that’s ok of course and sorry if you perhaps got one of theses questions before

1.what is your general opinion on Shigaraki cause I’m curious as a shiggy fan and just curious in general what other people who don’t like him as much or just in general don’t like him think of him

2. How would you write/rewrite shigaraki just in general or if nine was the main villian and Shigaraki was like a secondary villian and or maybe him joining up with nine

3. What do you think would have happened if nine found tenko

sorry if this ask comes off as annoying or rude I’m just general curious hope you having a good/night

Hello!

It's ok, I would try to answer the question the best I can as english isn't my first lenguage so sorry if you find errors here and there. So let's go:

1_ This may sound strange as my constant comments and critiques about Shigaraki may make look like I hate him, but isn't really the case.

I think is more he's a frustrating character to me because while on paper his concept is fine, I feel his presence ends up being detrimental to the quality of the story because the mangaka didn't know how kept Shigaraki relevant and his solution was artificially increase his status sacrificing other more interesting characters with potential just to elevate Shigaraki, especially Nine and Overhaul.

2_ Honestly I never thought on an in deep rewrite of Shigaraki overall character.

But If I have to say something he did works as a early antagonist considering the initial states of MHA and while I'm not fan of having a singular main villain (because in my ideal story multiple major villains should fight for the power) I think Shigaraki and Nine surely can coexist in the same story. They can even influence each other in fact.

After all an important part of Shigaraki as a character is how he develops a sense camaraderie and tries to became a better leader (even if there's a lot of problems with the execution if that idea in canon).

But Nine already had those qualities since the beginning, he's a good leader who always cared about his teamates and tried his best to protect them. He was a hero for them basically.

So why not make Nine a figure which inspires Shigaraki rather than his rival and Tomura attemps to became a better version of himself while looking what makes Nine a beloved leader, while at the same it time creates a contrast with AFO who was the only prominent figure on his life before.

It would also be funny if AFO didn't see coming how his two attempts of "successors" would became closer allies rather than rivals and join forces, eventually opposing him. Nine would never follow AFO selfish ideals, and he probably will fight to free Shigaraki from his control.

3_ This one is interesting, because I don't think Nine and Shigaraki have a big age difference in the first place.

Despite Nine got a more adult vibe he probably is at best middle 20s, which would make him 4-5 years older than Shigaraki in terms of canon age.

So in a scenario where Nine found Tenko after what happened to his family that day they both will still be kids.

But despite Nine seem to only care about people with stronger quirks and you can think "why he would care about a random kid in the streets?" I actually think Nine has this unconsious instict to protect others in a vulnerable situation regardless of their actual power. After all how he could guess people like Slice and Mummy were strong but he helped them anyway?

That being said I think Nine would do exactly the same for Tenko if he found him that day, extending a hand to him (metaphorically at least lol) and both would together while trying to survive on the cruel world of the streets as two orphans without any place to go.

Think about it as Nine being the big bro who tries to protect Tenko the best he can, because he knows Tenko can be a really strong person and both could take on the world someday. Of course Nine won't try to fuel Tenko's trauma unlike AFO, perhaps he will attempt to heal him and Tenko will recover a bit of his own selfless and sweet self with time.

While they grown together as a found family they eventually will meet Chimera, Slice and Mummy like Nine did in canon.

Idk how their lives should continue from there, but pretty sure all them will still fight for create the ideal world Nine always wanted for all of them.

So that's it, I tried my best to answer each question but probably I could've added a lot more but didn't want to make this too long either.

Perhaps one day I will do more post with ideas about how I would like the story to be. It's very fun write about Nine and Shigaraki actually.

Thank you for ask and read!

Greek gods energy 🌩

Whoever decided it was a good idea to gift us with the image of AFO and Nine showing their perfect bodies, thanks to that person 🙏

Oh dear... Horikoshi isn't a good writter but at least he didn't go so far to make that atrocious "Eri will rewind Shigaraki and the villains into kids" real, neither the equally awful "Shigaraki will unlock the Overhaul part of Decay".

Thank god it didn't happen, just for that I can forgive a lot of shit of the final arc.

Isn't ironic how the lov fans are also really selective in terms of who can be saved and not? The love to shit on the heroes for not save their precious babies, but is like only 3 villains exist for them.

Like why Chisaki wouldn't deserve to be saved as well? He had a shitty life and his crimes are far less worse than mass murdered like the LOV did.

But nah... no villains deserves to be saved aside of the league of lames.

You can imagine how happy makes me see them getting angry because Chisaki and Muscular the "pure evil" villains are alive while crusty bitch and his friends are rotting in hell.

The ship of Kurogiri and Compress is so random and for some reason is super popular despite they have no interactions whatsoever. Like I don't care about Kurogiri, but considering Shigarakumo is somewhere inside and has to deal with all that bs from Compress... eh I feel for the poor boy.

Have you ever think on how rewrite Compress?

Like I've always thought he must be one of the worse written characters in this series, and that's saying a lot when your writer is Horikoshi.

Outside of being handsome under that stupid outfit and his quirk, everything about Compress is kind of lame. Many other characters have similar concepts but much better execution.

I have some ideas to change his entire role, but nothing serious yet.

Hi @nyc3

Glad you ask bc...I never really gave much thought on Compress. Yes, he is handsome (everyone in MHA is handsome but Izu who Hori says is a gag character) but the man is ...meh, to me. Lov stans go nuts and call him the "dad of the group" and jokes aside....

He isn't even remotely close to be on this label. Kuro? I get it (even if Shig is uncaring for the Nomu. I get why, more or less, I mean I can imagine it's bc how Kuro was passive in the whole shit afo did...but shig still remain faithful to afo) but Mr. Compress is nothing.

Yes, he says one nice thing to Toga (another nutcase) but this is nothing. I do admit lov can work with each other and it's more than Izu gets...but that's the bare minimum.

So no. Mr. Compress is just a big nothing....but he is handsome.

At least he isn't a Spinner.

Dont be a Spinner.

If you talk about deep comic lore about X-Men, then I don't really know.

While I love X-Men as a concept for a superhero group (probably my favorites on that sense) my only experience with them are the live action movies and some of the animated series. So I don't know that specific character you mention there, but there's other similar characters to Shigaraki with similar decay powers that are much better writen than him, for example Polka-Dot Man (from the James Gunn S.S movie at least).

I wish we could get more of the gay twincest between AFO and Yoichi, but well don't think Shonen Jump would allow HK to get away with that even if he wants.

Nine and Midoriya really are perfect foils for each other in canon. I wonder how your version will play out.

And one of the funniest part abot Bakugou fans is how obviously they're mostly new anime fans and Bakugou is super dope for them only because they don't know anything better. But the rest of the anitweet community always make fun of them because there's tons of characters that do the same as Bakugou but far better.

Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...

Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.

Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?

Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.

So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.

In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.

It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.

I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.

But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.

Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.

Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.

Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.

Feel free to use any of my ideas for your AU if you want! And adapt them to your style, as you probably would put a better use than me.

That includes the names for Cider.

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I already love your own ideas for develop their relationship since their meet. Their teamwork and the way the gain mutual respect.

And the whole concept of Cider/Mizunami having a "Oh no, he's hot" moment is pure gold.

Just imagine if his mask breaks and he takes the parts off showing his face cover in dirt, sweat and a bit of blood after a that fight which he wins. All this in front of of Izumi who will be dying inside by the view of so much testosterone lol.

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Geten being illiterate might be actually canon, as Horikoshi explained he never go to a school and rather trained his quirk all his life. And that's kinda sad if you think about it.

He really is the perfect child soldier, coming from a family like the Himuras who are elitist jerks obssesed with status and power (and they even practice inbreeding between their clans) capable of sell their members like objects no matter the gender as both him and Rei were sold very young for different porpuse. And Geten was sold to a quirk elitist maniac who probably brainwashed him into serve to the ideology of a guy from 300 years ago, and Re-Destro is okay with Geten not having any kind of education apparently.

Yeah that's a rough life for sure...

But also a gold mine for interactions!

Especially between him and his biological family.

In my AU all the Todoroki kids, Geten and Cider are cousins by the Himura side, at some point all them should be reunited in one way or another. Think about that sweet drama...

The parallels you made between Mizunami and Geten are brilliant. Hope it can develop into a good dynamic in which both can lear from each other rather than just being enemies.

The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.

Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)

Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)

Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.

(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)

Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.

Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.

Lol

(I love a good mask reveal!)

I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?

Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.

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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.

They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.

Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.

And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.

Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.

JJK Phantom Parade just dropped the hardest artwork ever for Ino now he's going to be playable

Maybe I should start playing this game after all, when I buy a new phone at least.

I kinda get what point you're trying to make here, but this is more about Kai character arc that the Hassaikai arc itself.

For Kai as a character I do agree on him not being as fleshed out as he could be (but disagree on the love part, I love him anyway so...).

The Overhaul arc as a storyline feels pretty consistent overall outside of thay specific part.

Besides you have to put this in the context of how it was published in the manga. Because by that point the Overhaul arc was at the time the longest arc of the series and go on for over a year which was a huge difference compared to everything else the manga had previously.

Besides is a known fact that Horikoshi wasn't emotionally okay during that time, and writing the arc with a very dark tone was not doing very good to his mental health as he said on interviews.

With that in mind it's totally possible that Horikoshi just wanted to be done with an arc that was going on forever and pass to something lighter in tone (main reason of why the school festival is almost cartoonish in comparison). That was at the cost of not expand on Chisaki as a character sadly.

As for the rest of your questions, it sounds like you don't finished the stoey of the manga so it might be spoiler so I couldn't talk about them without spoil some things.

ok so tell me if I'm wrong or overthinking this, but....

Does anyone else think Overhaul's ark was rushed and kinda half-finished? Why does every character have a fully explained back story that makes you love them no matter what, but we still don't know anything about Overhaul? Where did he come from? who are his parents? why does Pops' daughter not want anything to do with him? Is it just me? I feel like Pops neglected Kai as a kid. He's obviously mentally ill, and he had no care for that. where did he get his quirk theory from? When he said it, it sounded drilled into his head like he had heard it somewhere else. how is he connected to any of the AFO ark? he seems to be the adult version of Eri if she was never saved right? why did Pops find him wandering the streets? WHY?